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Father Michael: Gym as Ascetic Training for Christian Life

Father Michael: Gym as Ascetic Training for Christian Life 23:12

Father Michael presents the gym as an ascetic space where men learn discipline, planning, perseverance through pain, and delayed gratification. These habits transfer to school, work, relationships, and the Christian life. He describes watching young men battle anger, addiction, pornography, and broken relationships in the gym, growing calm and finding peace.

Mature masculinity, he says, is a gift from God meant to serve others, protecting family, worshipping, working, and creating value, not chasing pleasure in sex, drugs, or games. Young men today suffer from a crushing lack of confidence, not pride, and simple encouragement from other men can change a life. He warns against defeatism and the "black pill," urging men to take small daily steps of 1% improvement, fall and get up like the desert fathers, and never quit.

Orthodoxy in America has great potential, but Orthodox Christians must use social media with humility and love, not hatred, and evangelize by listening, affirming, and inviting over coffee. The talk addresses cultural pressures on men, including progressive ideology that condemns natural male drive, popular culture that reduces men to base appetites, and the absence of societal programs for men comparable to those for women.

Male university enrollment has dropped, about a third of men do not work, and 45 percent of men aged 18 to 25 have never approached a woman. Father Michael connects physical training to Christian disciplines such as denial, fasting, prayer, and attending liturgy even when one does not feel like it.

Key moments

  1. The gym teaches planning, sticking to the plan, going when you don't want to, working through pain, delaying gratification, eating differently, and persevering, lessons transferable to every area of life.
  2. The gym is ascetic; men wrestle with anger, broken relationships, disappointment, bad upbringing, addiction, alcohol, porn, drugs, and leave toxic relationships, finding peace and change.
  3. It is never too late to start; self-improvement stacks and mirrors Christian disciplines like denial, fasting, prayer, and attending liturgy even when you don't feel like it.
  4. Men are not doing well: progressive left, toxic masculinity rhetoric, wokeism, and equality-of-outcomes ideology condemn men's natural drive; popular culture reduces men's enjoyment to "boobs, beer, and bacon" while telling them to get in touch with feelings or just "man up."
  5. No societal programs exist for men like those for women; male university enrollment has dropped, about a third of men don't work, and 45% of men 18-25 have never approached a woman.
  6. Mature masculinity is a gift from God; we use our male capacities to add value and serve others, protecting family, worshipping, working, creating products that relieve suffering.
  7. Young men's problem is not pride but a crushing lack of confidence; even a small word of encouragement from another man can mean the world.
  8. The 1% daily improvement rule: small incremental steps (pray each morning, learn a little) compound over years; reframe obstacles as the necessary steps toward your goal.
5 opinions in the discussion 5 participants The opinion with the most support People complaining that Orthobros are mean is just a dodge. Tone isn't the real issue (and yes, I think the truth should be shared kindly), folks cry meanness because of our exclusivist claims. Look, Protestants gripe about the anathemas of the Seventh… Read the discussion
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  • opinion#3495

    People complaining that Orthobros are mean is just a dodge. Tone isn't the real issue (and yes, I think the truth should be shared kindly), folks cry meanness because of our exclusivist claims. Look, Protestants gripe about the anathemas of the Seventh Ecumenical Council. Are we supposed to call the Fathers of that Council mean?

  • opinion#3494

    We are both body and soul, and being spiritual doesn't mean rejecting the physical. What we do virtuously with our bodies shapes our souls, and the state of our soul shows in the body too.

  • opinion#3496

    It's hard to find the will for this when I can't even tell if I'm just a pile of atoms headed for annihilation at death. We're constantly hit with materialist science and it killed my desire to pray, out of fear of confirmation bias, even though I'm a cradle catholic. At this point life feels like a countdown to an endless dreamless sleep, and everything in it (morality, love, all of it) looks like copium we invented to avoid admitting it's all worthless in the end. We all face the same horrifying fate, we're a random accident. I don't care about morality or sin anymore; I just see randomly generated meaningless atoms that popped out of nowhere one day. I feel so sad. If my thoughts, emotions and sense of self are just atoms bumping together, then I'm no different from a rock, just as much an accident, and rights are a comfortable lie we tell ourselves (as Leopardi might say). Hot take, but the moment far off when I die and get an NDE will be one of the most tense ever, since I'll fear being annihilated any second and desperately hope it won't end, and if nothing bad happens it'll be such relief. But will that happen?

  • opinion#3497

    The whole 'lifting for Christ' thing is kind of absurd. Not one ounce of muscle gained translates into a softer heart or humility, and often it does the exact opposite. In my experience it makes people proud and blind to their own ego. Working out is actively dangerous to the spirit without discernment and self-awareness, and lifting won't give you those. Nobody wants to touch this topic because the guys drawn to it are usually totally unreceptive to correction and freak out if you raise it. They won't accept correction unless a priest or Christ himself says so... about anything. I almost lost a friendship over pointing out that Byzantium outlawed bloodsports and UFC is just a dressed-up, socially acceptable version for modern secular societies. Same with football. When men are wrecking their bodies and brains for your entertainment, admiration and money, that's not spiritually edifying, it's the opposite. How much worse when you destroy your own body in the name of prelest and justification? How is lifting a service to others, beyond the vague notion that you'll someday protect them or something? If the best justification is theoretical, or that lifting might eventually lead to service, we're lying to ourselves. Guys who lift usually don't have jobs serving others; those men are already fit from their profession or lift to be better at it. An office worker pumping iron is a…

  • opinion#3498

    There's something really messed up about working an easy job for money just to pay to do fake work training your body. The gym shouldn't exist, we should be doing real work like we were meant to. A 190 pound farmer is stronger than a bodybuilder and lives a more natural life closer to Creation.