Debate on Scripture's authority and the Church
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A debate examines the foundation for knowing truth when discussing the canon of Scripture. One participant asks what foundational truth the other holds and how they know what is true. Another cites John 17:17 as the standard if the Church is rejected.
A third argues that appealing to Scripture to prove Scripture is circular reasoning. A fourth counters that Jesus, as God, declares truth by his own authority, not by appealing to Scripture. The exchange centers on whether Scripture authenticates itself or requires the Church's witness, and whether Christ's divine authority makes his words self-authenticating.
Key moments
- The speaker asks what the other's foundational truth is and how they know what is true.
- Another speaker says that if the church is rejected, John 17:17 states what is true.
- A participant responds that this appeal uses scripture to prove scripture.
- Another replies that Jesus did the same.
- A different voice disagrees, stating that Jesus is God and his word is true because he is God, not because he appeals to scripture.
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