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Priest's harsh confession demands called violence against the person

Priest's harsh confession demands called violence against the person 12:45

What the video says

A layperson describes a painful confession experience where the rector, serving alone and irritable, angrily rejected their attempt to shorten confession due to a long line, demanded a list of sins, and criticized their absence from the all-night vigil. The layperson explains they and their wife are full-time students undergoing expensive psychotherapy for serious mental health conditions, making Saturday evening their only rest time, and the encounter left the wife in tears and both shaken before communion.

The responding priest calls this violence against the person, arguing that Christ invites the sick to communion, not the sinless, and that priests who impose formal barriers, lengthy rules, mandatory canons, vigil attendance, act like border guards rather than physicians. He notes that the only sin barring communion is unrepented enmity, citing the pre-communion prayer and Christ's command to reconcile before offering one's gift.

He contrasts this with priests themselves, who serve the Eucharist weekly but are required to confess only twice yearly in the Moscow diocese, their confession untied to each liturgy.

Key moments

  1. The layperson recounts being forced into infrequent communion in 2020-21 due to excessive preparation requirements, later finding priests who explained the rules were not mandatory.
  2. At today's liturgy, only the rector was present to serve and hear confessions simultaneously; he appeared irritable and angrily rejected the layperson's offer to skip a detailed sin list to save time.
  3. The priest insisted on a formal confession, leading the layperson to list made-up sins, and criticized their absence from the Saturday all-night vigil.
  4. The layperson explains they and their wife are in psychotherapy for a mental disorder and a personality disorder, are full-time students working to afford therapy costing far more than 500 rubles per session, and need Saturday evening to rest.
  5. The wife left the church in tears, already in a spiritual crisis unable to accept God's love; both eventually communed but found the sermon on God's love and joy unbearable after the encounter.
  6. The responding priest calls the incident real violence against the human person, emphasizing that the faithful come to God at communion, not to a priest acting as a controller.
  7. The priest argues that treating confession as a checkpoint requiring sinlessness before communion contradicts Christ's words that the sick need a physician, and cites 1 John on sins leading to death versus the daily Christian state.
  8. The priest notes that priests in the Moscow diocese are required to confess only twice yearly, their confession never tied to each Eucharist they serve, unlike the heavy burdens they lay on the laity.

A layperson describes a confession where the rector, serving alone and visibly irritated, angrily refused a request to shorten the confession because of a long line. The priest demanded a detailed list of sins and criticized the layperson for missing the Saturday all-night vigil. The layperson explains that both they and their wife are full-time students undergoing expensive psychotherapy for serious mental health conditions, making Saturday evening their only time to rest. The encounter left the wife in tears and both shaken before communion.

The responding priest calls the incident real violence against the human person. He argues that Christ invites the sick to communion, not the sinless, and that priests who impose formal barriers, mandatory canons, and vigil attendance act like border guards rather than physicians. He states that the only sin barring communion is unrepented enmity, citing the pre-communion prayer and Christ's command to reconcile before offering one's gift.

He contrasts this with the practice for clergy: priests in the Moscow diocese are required to confess only twice yearly, and their confession is never tied to each Eucharist they serve, unlike the heavy burdens they lay on the laity.

Main points

  • Layperson and wife are full-time students in psychotherapy for mental health conditions; therapy costs far exceed 500 rubles per session, leaving Saturday evening as only rest time.
  • Rector served alone, appeared irritable, rejected shortened confession, demanded formal sin list, and criticized absence from all-night vigil.
  • Wife left church in tears, already in spiritual crisis; both communed but found sermon on God's love unbearable after the encounter.
  • Responding priest calls the incident violence, says Christ invites the sick not the sinless, and only unrepented enmity bars communion.
  • Moscow diocese priests confess only twice yearly, their confession untied to each liturgy they serve, unlike requirements imposed on laity.
11 opinions in the discussion 11 participants The opinion with the most support So, Father Alexey! I don't have these problems anymore. I've been going to the same church for a long time. Our wise rector allowed me not to confess before communion if I haven't fallen into any serious sin. But I do try to get a blessing for communion.… Read the discussion
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  • opinion#1512

    So, Father Alexey! I don't have these problems anymore. I've been going to the same church for a long time. Our wise rector allowed me not to confess before communion if I haven't fallen into any serious sin. But I do try to get a blessing for communion. Thanks to my kind mentors. Still, I always feel my unworthiness. The prayer of Basil the Great helps.

  • opinion#1516

    In Greece nobody confesses before communion. The sacrament of confession and of communion are completely separate sacraments, not connected at all! It's only here that confession serves as some kind of pass to communion! 😊 And there an ordinary priest isn't even allowed to hear confessions, only a spiritual father assigned by the monastery, who has the official permission for it! I think it's the same in Serbia! 😊

  • opinion#1514

    Thank you, Fr. Alexey. I went through something like the letter writer. Only I couldn't take communion, because my inner peace was badly shaken by the foolishness of a monk I confessed to (not in my own church). When I said I had communed a week earlier and had no unconfessed mortal sins (and I was nearly 70), he started shaming me for not having prepared for confession...

  • opinion#1510

    Thank you ❤ Our priest says similar things. But when everyone around you tells you what's the right way to do things... doubts start creeping in. Your talks really help me sort through a lot of those doubts.

  • opinion#1511

    Thank you for saying this yet again. Unfortunately our priest is exactly like this: no enemy of his "sneaks" to the chalice without maximum rule-reading, maximum fasting, and of course invented sins plus fake dramatic contrition over them. And there's also the constant fear of being barred from communion - he loves that too, if he happens to find out someone criticized him. 😢

  • opinion#1513

    Fr. John Krestiankin said: GOD FORBID I EVER REFUSE ANYONE COMMUNION

  • opinion#1517

    Some parishioners confuse the priest with God! And expect from an ordinary human being, essentially, an understanding of all their problems, some special treatment! It's naive of course and can be irritating, plus if the salary is small, not every parish is wealthy

  • opinion#1509

    And I don't list out my sins! I simply repent!

  • opinion#1515

    My father, when he got cancer, went to confession. The priest asked: did you "prepare"? And it was his first time ever. He lived in the USSR. No, he says, I didn't prepare. So the priest drove him away from communion... Our priests do this. My husband was not admitted some 20 years ago, and he hasn't communed in 20 years since... Priests need to be very careful with this. I was also turned away a couple of times. But I take it more calmly, I don't go to just one priest. I go to different churches. Because I confess before the Lord through a priest.

  • opinion#1518

    Ugh. Yes, this kind of Phariseeism happens in church all the time. I've gotten used to it, but I still rarely go there, for reasons beyond my control.. And our priest absolutely refuses to make house calls in our village.(( I didn't know priests had such permissions. Then I guess it must be really hard for them to approach God, spiritual power and such concessions, and the demons are definitely pleased with this state of affairs and do everything to encourage it.. honestly I really hope that at least some countermeasure against this is instilled during their training.. ..Though the whole situation is very strange..

  • opinion#1519

    People, explain to me: what if a person doesn't see a mortal sin as an obstacle to union with God? Not every mortal sin, but what if a person admits they could commit murder, adultery? What if you've realized you can't help sinning? Are you then separated from God? What do you do?