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Father Moses: Anxiety Comes from Wanting Our Outcome, Not God's

Father Moses: Anxiety Comes from Wanting Our Outcome, Not God's 8:19

What the video says

The speaker describes his lifelong struggles with depression and anxiety, noting that depression fades when behavior changes through the Holy Spirit because it is rooted in sin, while anxiety persists as a constant temptation tied to life's uncertainties. He defines anxiety simply as "my outcome", the insistence on a particular result according to one's own will rather than God's. Drawing on the Gospel account of Peter walking on water and the teaching of the Church Fathers, he explains that anxiety arises from fear of not getting what we want or losing what we have, both of which stem from fixing our eyes on circumstances instead of Christ.

The remedy is to surrender our desired outcome and ask for God's outcome, trusting that He opens and closes doors for our transformation, as illustrated by the lives of the saints and the image of a log drifting on the ocean. The speaker recounts an elder's counsel during his difficult early priesthood, that such trials are good, and how those years revealed his lack of faith and deepened his reliance on Christ.

Key moments

  1. Depression fades with Holy Spirit cooperation because it is linked to sin; anxiety remains a constant temptation.
  2. Anxiety equals "my outcome", insisting on a particular result based on one's own will rather than God's.
  3. Peter walking on water illustrates anxiety: taking eyes off Christ to focus on circumstances causes sinking.
  4. Church Fathers identify two root dilemmas: fear of not getting what we want or losing what we have.
  5. Overcoming anxiety requires surrendering our outcome and asking for God's outcome.
  6. God opens and closes doors for our protection and transformation; His will is mysterious and not aligned with our desires.
  7. Saints' difficult circumstances lead to transformation and greater grace through alignment with God's will.
  8. Elder's counsel during early priesthood: difficult years are good; they revealed lack of faith and deepened reliance on Christ.

Father Moses describes his lifelong struggles with depression and anxiety. He distinguishes between them: depression fades when behavior changes through the Holy Spirit because it is rooted in sin, while anxiety persists as a constant temptation tied to life's uncertainties. He defines anxiety simply as "my outcome," the insistence on a particular result according to one's own will rather than God's. Drawing on the Gospel account of Peter walking on water and the teaching of the Church Fathers, he explains that anxiety arises from two root fears: not getting what we want and losing what we already have.

Both fears stem from fixing our eyes on circumstances instead of Christ. The moment we look at the wind instead of Christ, we start to sink.

The remedy is to surrender our desired outcome and ask for God's outcome, trusting that He opens and closes doors for our transformation. He illustrates this with the lives of the saints and the image of a log drifting on the ocean. God's will is mysterious and not aligned with our desires.

Father Moses recounts an elder's counsel during his difficult early priesthood: such trials are good. Those years revealed his lack of faith and deepened his reliance on Christ. The elder told him that the hardest years of his priesthood would become the most fruitful because they stripped away self-reliance.

Main points

  • Depression fades with Holy Spirit cooperation because it is linked to sin; anxiety remains a constant temptation.
  • Anxiety equals "my outcome", insisting on a particular result based on one's own will rather than God's.
  • Peter walking on water illustrates anxiety: taking eyes off Christ to focus on circumstances causes sinking.
  • Church Fathers identify two root fears: not getting what we want and losing what we have.
  • An elder told Father Moses during his early priesthood that difficult years are good; they revealed his lack of faith and deepened reliance on Christ.
8 opinions in the discussion 8 participants The opinion with the most support I've always had trouble telling the difference between God's will and just being passive. In some situations I feel like I'm being too passive and making excuses for myself, and in others I'm giving a hundred percent and feel like I'm forcing my own will… Read the discussion
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  • opinion#1788

    I've always had trouble telling the difference between God's will and just being passive. In some situations I feel like I'm being too passive and making excuses for myself, and in others I'm giving a hundred percent and feel like I'm forcing my own will instead. Maybe God's will is simply accepting whatever outcome comes.

  • opinion#1789

    Great video. On top of what you mentioned, I feel part of my anxiety comes from being afraid of God's will itself, because I know it often won't match my own.

  • opinion#1786

    Father, bless, and thank you for this. My struggle isn't with the trials themselves, it's with feeling abandoned inside them. When I look at the Saint, he was physically abandoned, left with no money, out on the streets. But I'm told I'm not abandoned inwardly. That doesn't help. Yes, I could literally end up on the street. How am I supposed to know that what I'm going through is a trial for healing, and not just everything being my own fault? When it drags on year after year? I'm told to be patient, or that God always answers prayers, just not the way you expect. That's a cop out, an unfalsifiable claim. I'm told God won't interfere with other people's free will, the world is bad, and it's on me to make things work. God won't force anything, but also pray, then don't think about it, then don't worry, while I'm trapped and the struggle never stops. Naturally this leads to depression and withdrawal, and my family suffers too, which makes me spiral further, because that's not fair to them. I know this isn't the best place for this, my apologies.

  • opinion#1785

    This described my journey exactly. After I repented and came back to Christ, my depression faded away without me even noticing. One morning I woke up and realized I couldn't remember the last time I felt depressed, praise God. You're also right that anxiety sticks around much longer. I expected it to vanish the same way, but it hasn't, and in its persistence I fear that God in His wisdom has allowed it to remain as part of my thorn and cross. Please pray for me, everyone reading this, that I overcome in Christ's name, persevere, and finish the race.

  • opinion#1787

    I'm on the spectrum and also deal with anxiety. Sometimes I just have to accept that this world wasn't built for me, and nothing will fix this endless, lifelong struggle I have to carry. I don't know how I'm supposed to fully trust God's will when all I've ever known is humiliation, misfortune, being misunderstood, and stagnation in my isolation. If the trials and tribulations are what God needs from me, and his will is to put me through even more of that just to make me more dependent on him, I don't know if I can do it. I'll be honest: the idea that God would rather break me and drag me through horrific periods of life just to make me lean on him more makes me angry. I don't fully understand God, and probably never will, and that's exactly why I hesitate to give him my full trust. I want to do the things I love, and do them for God's glory if he allows it ("ask and you shall receive"), without him cutting me off from them by crippling me mentally or physically any more than I already am. As it stands, I imagine that's an unhappy life and an unfulfilling existence.

  • opinion#1790

    Who says God might not make you poor, or rich, or leave you lost forever? This is just another example of hollow human ideas, not God's infallible word. Depression and anxiety can be overcome, by the power of the Holy Spirit, with prayer and the scriptures, or they might not be. A sovereign God does whatever He decides to do, for His glory and His ultimate plans, whenever He wants, with whomever He wants. For instance, how did Pharaoh end up, and Who did that to him?

  • opinion#1791

    Father Moses, you say anxiety comes from fighting reality, fighting god's will and plan, by holding onto expectations for MY outcome. So letting go, accepting every situation exactly as it is, and trusting in god is what sets you free. That makes me think the title of this video is a bit hasty, since the way to "win" over anxiety is actually to "not fight", just to release your expectations about the outcome. All my love to you, Father Moses.

  • opinion#1792

    This is amazing! 🤩 Thank God you're willing to share this with us. ❤ Jonah. A log, 🪵 like Jonah, who threw himself overboard into the storm, facing certain death, and got swallowed by a giant fish God sent, to save him so he could go spare Nineveh. We have to throw ourselves into the swallowing winds of unbeatable challenge, against the devil's temptations of staying comfortable on the boat. To save the other sailors. They're worth it to God, and so, then, are we. Amen? 🙏 * and, side note: Wow, depression is linked with sin?!?! Oh, I have to watch that video next…